OS X Odyssey 641 - Is Anyone Out There Really Still Using OS 10.1?

847 Does anyone out there actually still use Mac OS 10.0 or 10.1? A fair few of the shareware and freeware applications I list in Shareware Beat still include OS 10.1 as their minimum system requirement, but I have to wonder why anyone would have not upgraded to at least OS 10.2 Jaguar now.

Up until OS 10.2, OS X was a pretty raggedy and buggy operating system -- really a public beta all but name. In my estimation, OS X only pulled ahead of Classic OS 9 in terms of functional efficiency overall with Jaguar, and still lagged behind OS 9 in several critical areas, such as speed. With Panther the balance is now weighted decisively on favor of OS X if you have a Mac that will run it.

However, I suppose there must be quite a few consumer Mac users out there whose computers came with OS 10.1 installed, who are still struggling along with that system, although they are more likely still using OS 9.2.2, which was the default boot system on Macs sold in the 10.1 era. Some people just don't upgrade. I read somewhere this week that that 80 percent of Mac buyers never upgrade their machines beyond adding memory, which is a shame.

For example, the customer I sold a new WallStreet PowerBook to back in 1998 is still happily running OS 8.6, and the only reason she's not using OS 8.1, which is what shipped with her Mac, is that we upgraded her at a routine six-month checkup, which to the best of my knowledge is the last time her PowerBook was serviced.

A friend of mind phoned last week for advice about replacing his computer mouse. The computer is a 1997 vintage UMAX C-500 Mac clone, and one of the ball rollers in the original mouse has disintegrated with age. I suggested that he buy a USB PCI card adapter to put in one of the C-500's two PCI expansion slots, and get a USB mouse, since sources of replacement ADB mice are a bit thin on the ground here in the Nova Scotian hinterlands. Out of curiosity, I asked him what version of the Mac OS he is running. He didn't have a clue, but it's whatever came installed in the UMAX in '97, probably OS 8 or 8.1, and he claims that the computer still works well and does everything he needs it too, the mouse issue aside.

Not that I think there's any compelling necessity to obsessively upgrade to the latest OS version. I think there's a legitimate case to be made for sticking with OS 9 if you like it and it's giving you good service, and evidently about half of the installed Mac user base agrees with me.

On the other hand, if you're still using OS 10.1, you really owe to yourself to consider upgrading to at least OS 10.2 Jaguar. There's really little hardship in doing so. Remaindered Jaguar install CDs are not hard to find at twenty dollars or less, and will install on all officially OS X-supported Macs. The fractional OS 10.2 version upgrades and security patches are free downloads from Apple.

Note that if you have an older Mac without built-in USB ports, OS 10.2.8 is the last officially supported system for your computer, although it may be possible to install OS 10.3 Panther using Ryan Rempel's free XPostFacto installer hack.


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I do still use 10.1 on one machine I use. It has the venerable 604e chip in it. I use XpostFacto, and it runs 10.1 acceptably. I never thought 9.1 was all that fast on that machine, and I enjoy X so much, that I prefer seeing X on that 7500PM than 9.x.

My friend who has a white slot-loading G3 iMac has 10.1.5. He wants to upgrade, but with college expenses, it’s too much, even the $69. 

There are lots of Macs and Mac clones that can run OS 10.1.5 with the assistance of XPostFacto. I don’t just mean the upgradeable 7300-9600 PCI PowerMacs that can run 10.2 and greater with an upgrade. Think of the Performa 6400/6500 and their clones like the Umax C500 and C600. Think of the many Starmax models.

With a half decent hard-drive and X.1.5 these machines can be capable servers. I have a C500 with a 240Mhz 603e which serves as a mail/web/webDAV/Shoutcast/SSH server. 

Hi Ryan;

Wegener Media has Jaguar for 64.99
http://www.wegenermedia.com/osxj.htm

And Baucom Computers (CD only, in sleeve) for $59
http://www.baucomcomputers.com/

May be some help to your friend.

Charles

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Hi Terry;

You have a point, especially about server duty, but OS 10.1 must be glacially slow on these machines. It was bad enough on my 500 MHz G3 PowerBook. My son is running Panther on a UMAX S-900 upgraded with a 500 MHz G3 processor, and it’s barely marginal.

IMHO, OS 9.1 is the ideal OS for these old machines.

Charles

As a server my C500 - 240Mhz. 603e 144MB Ram 7200 rpm IDE drive is actually pretty peppy. It is available on my LAN and on the internet.
I have password protected family photos on it.  From the LAN the pictures come up very quickly in a web browser.
I am the first to admit that when using it for “consumer” programmes, I.E. programmes that use the GUI it is very slow. But I don’t use it to surf the web or run photoshop. Most administration tasks can be done remotely through an ssh connection or using webmin so it is rarely that I need to have a monitor attached.
Why OS X instead of OS 9 or earlier ?
Let’s just say I have run this server for a year or so running several free industrial strength server programmes at the same time without a crash.

Cheers - Terry

This really seems like a non-issue to me.  I don’t think the fact that developers list “10.1 or higher” is any evidence that people USE 10.1.  Yeah you can probably find some people with “Puma” (was that the name?) installed-- but I would bet 99.9% of them use 9.1 or 9.2 as their primary OS and rarely if ever switch over. 

My 9600 is using 10.1.5 and XpostFacto I have no reason to upgrade the CPU at this time I will upgrade it in a few years ..I have a new iBook G4 now. 

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