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Leopard And Me And Power PC - I’m Torn - OS X Odyssey 909 [Update 3]

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I'm sure there are many who would argue with me, but I'm becoming more and more convinced than ever that Leopard is not well-suited to production computing use on Power PC Macs, my 17" PowerBook G4 being a case in point.

On the other hand, some of Leopard's features, especially Spaces and Time Machine, are undeniably seductive, and I'm getting addicted to them quickly, so I'm torn.

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However, email POP 3 performance, as I've mentioned here before, is atrociously awful in Leopard, for reasons unknown. It may be partly that I'm stuck with a slow dialup connection for the near to mid-term at least, although I've been underwhelmed by email performance over WiFi connections as well. I can't send through my ISP email account's SMTP server at all over dialup and it's sluggish and erratic over WiFi. Outgoing mail works, albeit very sluggishly, through Gmail's SMTP servers. WebMail works normally.

What puzzles me is that all of my POP 3/SMTP mail accounts work just fine in OS 10.4 Tiger from the same machine over the same network, with the only variable being Leopard. It's a puzzler.

Another problem with Leopard is that as much as I really love it, Spaces keeps crapping out, with clicks to Dock application icons becoming unresponsive as well as folder icons on the Desktop refusing to open with a double-click (although they remain functional in list view through my Home Folder. The only cure is to reboot, which is a royal pain.

Weary of all this, I tried switching back to Tiger 10.4.11 for the first time in a month or so, but soon discovered that Leopard has kind of spoiled me despite its angularities. For one thing, Leopard seems to finesse processor temperature much more efficiently than the .11 build of Tiger, in which I find that the cooling fans run most of the time unless I select "Reduced" processor speed in the Energy Saver Preferences panel. With Leopard, I can run most of the time with the processor speed set at "Automatic" with the raucous little fan staying mercifully silent.

On the other hand, email works beautifully in Tiger, and WindowShade X works as well - a great relief on both counts. As I said, I'm torn, but the fan howling quickly got old and I booted back into Leopard. So now I'm not really satisfied with either Leopard or Tiger on this computer (although I am still in love with Tiger on my quiet, cool-running G4-upgrades Pismo PowerBooks).

I'm currently testing my theory that Firefox 3 beta 2 may be the culprit - or at least one of them, in causing the Spaces glitch. Not sure about that yet, but I‘ve now gone more than 24 hours without rebooting using just Safari and Opera for browsing.

[Update: Well, so much for that theory, and Spaces crapping out just after I started Firefox must have been a coincidence, because it hung again at about the 36 hour mark without Firefox running. Reboot again. Sigh...... Version 10.5.2 can't come soon enough. CM ]

Update 2: I may have found at least a temporary solution. By last Friday I was only getting a few hours between restarts due to Spaces crapping out, so in desperation, I ran a Repair Permissions/cron maintenance scripts/cache dump cleanup with OnyX late Friday evening and then first thing Saturday morning ran the OS 10.5.1 updater again. So far, so good. Roughly 54 hours later, Spaces is still behaving (fingers crossed), and at minimum it appears that I've extended the interval between crap-outs. We'll see.

However, I think maybe the only real cure will be upgrading to an Intel Mac, although I still am hoping that the OS 10.5.2 update, whenever it arrives, will improve Leopard performance on this old G4 machine.

{Update 3: Well, Leopard 10.5.2 is here. For me that meant a drive to the nearest WiFi hotspot (12 miles) and sitting in my truck for over an hour iin 20 degrees F° weather while the updaters downloaded. I'm still there as I write this, frozen, and will install the uodate later back in the office. Hopefully, Leopard will be a happier camper on my PowerBook with 10.5.2.]


Charles W. Moore

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I use Eudora for email.
I have an Intel-based iMac.
Did not notice any performance changes in email after switching to Leopard.

Sorry to hear about your Leopard travails. I swore I would never install the beast until 10.5.5 came along. Alas, my wife needed CS3 on her pre-Tiger G4. Since it only works 10.4 and up, I decided to go all the way to Leopard. I also splurged with a family pack. The results: 3 PPC computers running 10.5.1 with few problems.

Here is my small list of woes: Firefox is slightly more unstable and a USB 2 PCI card won’t work with some peripherals.

Panther is just as fast, makes certain tasks easy and is generally very responsive. The new features make it worth the investment. Memory leak is definitely less of an issue for me with this cat.

Overall, I give Panther a B+ at this stage.

PS. I don’t use Spaces.

Hi Dave;

Thanks for the information.

I’m delighted to hear that Eudora *can* work well with Leopard.

I’m guessing you have broadband.

Actually, I’ve encountered similar problems with other POP3/SMTP clients in Leopard, including Mail, so it’s not exclusively a Eudora issue.

I’m mystified as to what the issue might be. Email works just fine in Tiger on the same machine over the same Internet connection.

Charles

Hi Peter;

Glad to hear that you;re having a better trip with Leopard than I am. I expect many are. I’m pushing this old PowerBook awfully hard.

Speed isn’t a problem except for the email issue I mentioned in the article. POP 3 messages are slow incoming and like the proverbial cold molasses running uphill in the wintertime outgoing through SMTP - if I can get them to send at all. Webmail and general internet with a browser is as fast or daster than with Tiger. It seems to be specifically a problem with the email protocols, perhaps complicated by the fact that the fastest dialup connections I can get here are 26,400 bps on good days.

I agree tha memory management, as well as temperature control ate better with Leopard than Tiger.

As for Spaces, I simply could not function in Leopard without it since WindowShade X is not yet supported.

Charles

10.5.2 is out!

Kevin

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